tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post6530512255974552567..comments2023-12-18T15:03:52.326+00:00Comments on Jim's Loire: Pancho Campo MW – timelineCRMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12356808627188214016noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-53040507971576667942011-12-29T11:44:53.883+00:002011-12-29T11:44:53.883+00:00The current scandal involving Mr. Campo and Dr.Jay...The current scandal involving Mr. Campo and Dr.Jay Miller in Spain - known as Murciagate and/ or about charging for visits of the 2 men to wineries in Madrid - certainly seems to "add fuel the fire" regarding specualtion about Mr. Campos' ethics?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-77794938488600057842010-06-15T22:51:46.853+01:002010-06-15T22:51:46.853+01:00Re: Re: WSET Level 3 courses in Oporto
I do not w...Re: Re: WSET Level 3 courses in Oporto<br /><br />I do not wish to extend this discussion but here is my opinion about this subject:<br /><br />The WSET Level 3 course in Oporto was, indeed, organised by the Wine Academy of Spain in partnership with the Portuguese “Academia do Vinho”, and not by Mr. Pancho Campo alone. However, he was the tutor for most of the course and because in order to pass the Unit Two examination (which consists of a blind tasting) you have to learn how the examiner assesses wines in order to obtain a matching result during the exam.<br /><br />However, because the course was shortened to four days, the training sessions were also shorter and, consequently, most wine tastings were rushed and did not follow the complete WSET Advanced Systematic Approach to Tasting Wine (SATW). As a result, I felt that, like myself, most students were not conveniently prepared to use this tasting approach in the Unit Two examination since there was not enough time to get acquainted with the tutor’s tasting scale (i.e. the way the tutor rates the various attributes for each wine, especially those with more ambiguous scales, such as acidity, tannin, alcohol, body, flavour intensity and palate length). Consequently, most of the students failed or had poor marks on the Unit Two tasting exam. <br /><br />I don’t remember who replaced Pancho on the day of the exam(I think it was a man named Javier) but I was told Pancho had tasted the same wine that morning (or the previous day, I am not sure) before he left to Lisbon. Mind you, I am not suggesting he did not taste the wine used for the exam. I am simply saying that the students were not conveniently prepared for the exam because he had to rush things. Also, as I’ve described in my previous post, we were expecting to have Pancho taste with us that morning to prepare ourselves for the exam.<br /><br />Furthermore, I had the opportunity to compare the “official documentation” in Spanish that was provided to the students with the original textbook in English from WSET (“Exploring the World of Wines and Spirits”). I was very frustrated to see that the Spanish version had many translation errors (some of which radically changed the meaning of the original sentences) and lacked the quality of the original book, having no figures, maps or glossary at all. The same can be said about the Spanish translation of the corresponding Study Guide.<br /><br />Therefore, though my respect for WSET has not diminished, I will not recommend anyone to attend courses provided by the Wine Academy of Spain (or “Academia do Vinho”) to anyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-83447511837948124372010-06-15T11:37:49.801+01:002010-06-15T11:37:49.801+01:00Re: WSET Level 3 courses in Oporto
It is importa...Re: WSET Level 3 courses in Oporto <br /><br />It is important to distinguish between an individual giving a course and an institution. <br /><br />Who was the "replacement"?<br /><br />But if it was implied that Pancho Campo was giving the full 5 day course and not turning up because he was double booked for the last day then that is quite unethical.<br /><br />Clearly PC is trying to build a training business with more than himself so it is reasonable for others to share the delivery. <br /><br />But it is important to manage expectations. and there should have been clarity and transparency.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-56242114489501196302010-06-11T06:37:01.848+01:002010-06-11T06:37:01.848+01:00Thanks Anon. I note that nine months after Pancho ...Thanks Anon. I note that nine months after Pancho Campo resigned to clear his name, he remains a wanted fugitive.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-76630574752702875562010-06-11T01:15:49.838+01:002010-06-11T01:15:49.838+01:00Dear Jim,
Thank you for your thorough investigatio...Dear Jim,<br />Thank you for your thorough investigation on Mr. Pancho Campo. I've also experienced an unpleasant situation with Mr. Campo when attending one of his WSET Level 3 courses in Oporto (Portugal) in 2006. The course was supposed to last five days and was shortened to four days after Mr. Campo suggested we could use last day for practising for the wine tasting exam. This seemed a good idea, since at this level candidates must pass a wine tasting exam where WSET compares the candidates’ tasting notes with the examiner’s (in this case, Mr. Campo). Therefore, we’ve agreed to quickly go through the rest of the Units in order to practice wine tasting the next day (or so we thought). However, Mr. Campo did not even appear on the last day of the course and instead was replaced by one of his associates of the Wine Academy of Spain, which gave us the exam. We only found out later that Mr. Campo had another course scheduled to start in Lisbon that same day (i.e. the two WSET courses were scheduled on overlapping dates). I cannot say I was surprised when I first read the news about his lack of scruples. I only regret not having filed a complaint to WSET back then. Cheers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-43990088018834294412010-06-02T20:42:22.619+01:002010-06-02T20:42:22.619+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.buy viagrahttp://www.safemeds.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-65338478381889324242010-04-26T05:58:46.361+01:002010-04-26T05:58:46.361+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.camilynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01024263073326014593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-90453736779553411302009-10-09T22:36:38.567+01:002009-10-09T22:36:38.567+01:00Paco: sorry confusing it with Cataluña.Paco: sorry confusing it with Cataluña.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-42172775360384832572009-10-09T22:21:22.897+01:002009-10-09T22:21:22.897+01:00Dear Jim, for me this uncorrected mistake is also ...Dear Jim, for me this uncorrected mistake is also surprising... Anyway, just an extra comment, in fact both DO, Campo de Borja and Calatayud are in the same Spanish region: Aragón.Alcabalistahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12450582043189417221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-55084641280367833642009-10-09T21:59:29.396+01:002009-10-09T21:59:29.396+01:00Paco. Many thanks for this detail. I copied the li...Paco. Many thanks for this detail. I copied the list of wines from the WineFuture site, so the error in one sense is theirs.<br /><br />However, in another sense it is mine. I had assumed foolishly and apparently mistakenly that The Wine Academy of Spain headed then by an MW and charging 450 people 217€ to attend the tasting plus the obligatory fee of 783€ (1000€ total)would have got the details of the list of wines at the Grand Tasting with Robert Parker correct, especially as the two DOs are not even in the same Spanish region.<br /><br />My apologies.<br /><br />Minor details are often indicative of a wider truth.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-5052152493879729532009-10-09T20:16:43.245+01:002009-10-09T20:16:43.245+01:00Just a "marginal" comment (and probably ...Just a "marginal" comment (and probably is also wrong at the Wine Future website)... the wine Atteca Armas is not from DO Campo de Borja but from DO Calatayud....Alcabalistahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12450582043189417221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-26451045837340050622009-10-08T23:34:03.481+01:002009-10-08T23:34:03.481+01:00Anon – thanks. Have added the exclusive interview ...Anon – thanks. Have added the exclusive interview link to the end of the piece.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-1275092416237139182009-10-08T20:31:24.782+01:002009-10-08T20:31:24.782+01:00Graham. Many thanks for your kind comment. Jim'...Graham. Many thanks for your kind comment. Jim's Loire is indeed essentially about the Loire but not exclusively allowing me to post about other areas and other subjects. These, however, will always be a small part of the blog's content.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-32884883730586413332009-10-08T11:36:43.647+01:002009-10-08T11:36:43.647+01:00Jim,
It may be nothing to do with the Loire, but ...Jim,<br /><br />It may be nothing to do with the Loire, but an excellent piece of journalism. I frequently feel that wine journalism can get worryingly close to promotion. No danger of that with Mr Budd! - congratulations on the piece and do keep up the good work,<br /><br /><br /><br />GrahamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-17628269910160287122009-10-08T11:07:27.755+01:002009-10-08T11:07:27.755+01:00Jim:
Forgot to mention on my previous post that t...Jim:<br /><br />Forgot to mention on my previous post that there was an exclusive interview that Pancho Campo did just after he resigned on the <br />following link. <br /><br />http://www.conmuchagula.com/2009/10/02/pancho-campo-dimite-director-winefuture-rioja-entrevista-exclusiva/<br /><br />Pancho Campo answers are quite "interesting" and do not gel with some of the incidents. The best part is on the comments section where Antonio Gil, a journalist from Rioja, exposes some of the statements Pancho made as inaccurate based on an interview he had with him a few nights before he resigned. He also provides a few links on articles he wrote on Pancho Campo from a prominent Rioja newspaper website.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-53149206975629865202009-10-08T03:44:36.128+01:002009-10-08T03:44:36.128+01:00Many thanks – I have added that detail.Many thanks – I have added that detail.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-63713307387937412282009-10-07T23:51:17.462+01:002009-10-07T23:51:17.462+01:00Jim:
Excellent articles on Pancho Campo. You forg...Jim:<br /><br />Excellent articles on Pancho Campo. You forgot to mention that the two Rioja wines included at the last minute do not contain Grenache in their blend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com