tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post5634197244039722826..comments2023-12-18T15:03:52.326+00:00Comments on Jim's Loire: Bourgueil – 'parmi les toutes premières AOC en France' – mon oeil !CRMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12356808627188214016noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-60039417454767980452012-03-10T09:08:34.548+00:002012-03-10T09:08:34.548+00:00Yes Jim. It’s always a mix (blending is part of my...Yes Jim. It’s always a mix (blending is part of my trade) between empathy ( + respect in this case) and teasing. But you may be surprised to read the only place I use to go to pubs is ... UK. Belgium is very much a “café culture”, but I never indulged myself. And locally, only commercial rugby is the topic ... not something to my liking. I had hoped – not being as naive and straightforward as one may think – you would come up with this remark about the human factor. As always in France, all that counts is networking, far ahead of all other considerations (including quality, volume, foreign reputation ...). The first appellation of them all (or at least the most famous because of its Baron), C D P, never grew as much as under the chaimanship of .... M. Quiot!Luc Charliernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-1594118425281203122012-03-09T21:13:13.575+00:002012-03-09T21:13:13.575+00:00Merci Luc mais 'toujours le tangent' (prob...Merci Luc mais 'toujours le tangent' (probably un zinc in deepest Cornelia)!<br /><br />Nor am I sure that I would dignify a quick trash around Google and Wiki as investigative journalism, mais bon..<br /><br />There is, however, possible interesting research here into what were the factors that gave ACs early to some established areas, while others equally well established were given the gong a little later and, in some cases, much later.<br /><br />Also what was the role of terroir and the role of humankind?Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-80667316227886167262012-03-09T20:33:44.916+00:002012-03-09T20:33:44.916+00:00Fascinating piece of investigational journalism, J...Fascinating piece of investigational journalism, Jim !<br />But what’s the point of « being first » ?<br />The first “concentration camps” seem to date back to the XVIIIth century and were Russian (in Poland). Then we had some in the US – for Cherokee indians in the 1830’s.<br />The Brits were pretty early too: during the second Boer-war (an estimated 25.000 people), at the turn of the century. But you had a previous hands-on experience in what was to become Pakistan (with people burried alive) as early as 1843.<br />In present time, Guantánamo is a pretty good example.<br />“Those who are first will be last ....”Luc Charliernoreply@blogger.com