tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post8199810011162248778..comments2023-12-18T15:03:52.326+00:00Comments on Jim's Loire: Pancho Campo MW – Vinos de Madrid: a response from Robert ParkerCRMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12356808627188214016noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-9347606202335489192016-12-21T12:40:59.980+00:002016-12-21T12:40:59.980+00:00Nice job bloggerNice job bloggerAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05796260605768673960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-89911853178136905872012-05-04T23:13:00.192+01:002012-05-04T23:13:00.192+01:00Vindication for you, congrats.Vindication for you, congrats.McSnobbelierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13820928126030348910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-61901302450987898142012-04-12T13:06:40.359+01:002012-04-12T13:06:40.359+01:00Gerry. Richly ironic that Robert Parker has shelle...Gerry. Richly ironic that Robert Parker has shelled out thousands of dollars to prove that he, Parker, was wrong 'a reckless and malicious disregard for the truth'? and what we actually posted was correct.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-82741201513982103722012-04-12T11:18:25.300+01:002012-04-12T11:18:25.300+01:00Posted on Jim's Loire, Dec. 1, 2011:
I unders...Posted on Jim's Loire, Dec. 1, 2011:<br /><br />I understand that Robert Parker has just posted the following statement on his website relating to my post Campogate: No Pay – No Jay:<br /><br />"This blogger posted about Miller/Campo charging for tasting Spanish wines or for visiting Spanish wineries a while ago. We launched an investigation at that time despite the fact that both Miller/Campo denied all the allegations. We found no substance or truth to any of the allegations.<br /><br />Now he has brought similar charges. This time we have requested our lawyers to fully examine every allegation again, and they have also retained an additional lawyer, from Madrid, to study the allegations, and if again false, consider legal action. Jay chooses and controls 100% of the wines he tastes and wineries he visits. He uses the Spanish Wine Academy (Pancho Campo is their President) to assist in organization. We would never permit a winery to pay us for the priviledge (sic) of tasting their wine or visiting the winery. Moreover, Campo also understands his organization cannot charge wineries for Miller's visits. Both of them have full knowledge that is an appalling conflict of interest that would not be tolerated under any circumstance. There have been trade conferences organized by the Spanish Wine Academy that Jay has been paid a fee of $10,000 (which seems reasonable) and far less than the amounts reported by this blogger.<br /><br />I have been asked by our USA lawyers to refrain from commenting about this given the potential lawsuits by Jay, by Pancho, and possibly by TWA against these bloggers. Until we are 100% certain of all the facts, I think this subject, which appears to be a reckless and malicious disregard for the truth and clearly aimed at damaging Miller, Campo, and TWA, needs to be closed."<br /><br />This reads like something out of Mitt Romney's "Etch-a-sketch" play book.Gerry Dawes's Spainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06650398499991198249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-7146213254050993292012-04-11T02:57:18.999+01:002012-04-11T02:57:18.999+01:00Nice job blogger. WA has posted the results of th...Nice job blogger. WA has posted the results of the "independent investigation" on the site.Jack Bulkinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-11938134668406498172012-01-03T08:28:06.806+00:002012-01-03T08:28:06.806+00:00Gerry. Fair questions that remain unanswered. Jay ...Gerry. Fair questions that remain unanswered. Jay Miller has chosen not to acknowledge or answer any questions I have sent him. Nor to my knowledge has he provided any answers publicly to anyone else. <br /><br />The mix of official and 'free-lance' in the visits looks a very cosy arrangement and, although Miller can claim that he wasn't directly paid to visit a region and taste their wine, the masterclasses and 'seminars' look like ill-fitting fig leaves which allowed Miller to accept payment.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-18998427719725541192012-01-02T18:08:45.119+00:002012-01-02T18:08:45.119+00:00(Jim Budd) My comments:
I have never accused Jay M...(Jim Budd) My comments:<br />I have never accused Jay Miller of taking money for visits to wineries or for tasting wine to be assessed for The Wine Advocate. On the two occasions I sent questions to Robert Parker I stressed that I was not accusing Miller of taking money for winery visits or for tasting wines that would be assessed for publication in The Wine Advocate. I have received no acknowledgment from either Parker or The Wine Advocate.<br /><br />The only possible evidence that Miller might take money for visits to wine regions comes from the email sent by Pancho Campo MW on 3rd June 2011 at 15.30:<br /><br />'Private visits off the set agenda, as this would be, rarely take place, and not for a price below 40,000 euros. The fact that Jay has agreed to stay 2 days more, and for half the usual price, is a miracle and an opportunity that Madrid will find it difficult to have again.'<br /><br />Uh, the D.O. Madrid is just outside Madrid 45 minutes to an hour in different directions (southeast and west) and, one assumes, that he would be doing one of his famous "master tastings" at a Madrid D.O. event on a specific day. So why would it require Miller to stay an extra two days? What else was he being paid for?Gerry Daweshttp://www.gerrydawesspain.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-2890370411359148242011-12-07T14:03:12.265+00:002011-12-07T14:03:12.265+00:00Thank you Alana.Thank you Alana.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-69295509788005263372011-12-07T13:59:46.149+00:002011-12-07T13:59:46.149+00:00Oh wow. I read the other post and see what you mea...Oh wow. I read the other post and see what you mean. Mea culpa. Blame it on my non-journalist background, I wasn't following closely but my goodness, this is extremely damning for everyone involved. My hat's off to you for covering the story.Alana Gentryhttp://girlwithaglass.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-59472277236100258842011-12-06T22:58:52.017+00:002011-12-06T22:58:52.017+00:00Alana. Thank you. I think Campo's Tuscan email...Alana. Thank you. I think Campo's Tuscan email should be read in conjunction with Richer's email to Madrid earlier that day (4th June 2011).Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-80576492003059606832011-12-06T22:43:21.148+00:002011-12-06T22:43:21.148+00:00As a wine writer and a former owner of a talent ma...As a wine writer and a former owner of a talent management agency for corporate speakers, it looks like grey areas exist between Mr. Miller's speaking fees and role as a wine critic. <br /><br />Campo wrote, "Private visits off the set agenda, as this would be, rarely take place, and not for a price below 40,000 euros. The fact that Jay has agreed to stay 2 days more, and for half the usual price, is a miracle and an opportunity that Madrid will find it difficult to have again." <br /><br />This is jargon that is used every day when negotiating/discussing speaking fees. My theory is that this "confusion" could be used as a legal and public defense.Alana Gentryhttp://girlwithaglass.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-9609307824766262742011-12-05T21:49:35.583+00:002011-12-05T21:49:35.583+00:00As a fellow journalist, all I can say is thank you...As a fellow journalist, all I can say is thank you, and congratulations on your bravery.Alexandra Forbeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16277136673835698236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-41374300602587400542011-12-05T20:43:48.090+00:002011-12-05T20:43:48.090+00:00Good job Jim, this is what journalism is all about...Good job Jim, this is what journalism is all about. Getting the facts on the table, and allowing people to respond to the materials (in advance even) if they feel wrongly accused. I think we see today that your articles had truth to them.Ericahttp://twosisterswinetripping.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-22440864484476474732011-12-02T02:43:07.613+00:002011-12-02T02:43:07.613+00:00So do I, Jim…So do I, Jim…Vincent Poussonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13080212282701988499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-59577770477643952982011-12-02T01:58:43.277+00:002011-12-02T01:58:43.277+00:00When one loses ethics, they lose their soul.When one loses ethics, they lose their soul.dthirkellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-6056470609171375832011-12-01T23:04:20.613+00:002011-12-01T23:04:20.613+00:00Thank you anon. Much credit has to be given to Har...Thank you anon. Much credit has to be given to Harold Heckle, who obtained the emails, which so clearly show what has been going on. When I first saw them I thought they were explosive and I still do.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-59751232253069458932011-12-01T22:33:05.012+00:002011-12-01T22:33:05.012+00:00Great work here, Mr. Budd. You are a credit to th...Great work here, Mr. Budd. You are a credit to the industry. Seconding the mention about Mr. Miller's behaviour while on the WA Australia beat. Lots of dirty laundry there. Plenty of it in Argentina, too, apparently. The man's judgment is perplexing and that of his boss even more so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-90244953585889072932011-12-01T22:20:40.971+00:002011-12-01T22:20:40.971+00:00Alastair
Many thanks for your support. I have bee...Alastair<br /><br />Many thanks for your support. I have been delighted by the support I have received from many people. <br /><br />Jim's Loire has received close on 6000 visits* over the past two days, which shows that this 'subject' is far from being 'closed' as Robert Parker would like. Instead it has been blown wide open. It would be good to think that he could draw back and take a proper look at the evidence and set that against Campo's bluster.<br /><br />* Jim's Loire has a detailed sitemeter open to all.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-7444135178267395922011-12-01T21:53:46.905+00:002011-12-01T21:53:46.905+00:00In a blog post, I once described Jim Budd as a man...In a blog post, I once described Jim Budd as a man, so straight talking, his words come out on EU approved cucumbers. In this case (as in every other I am aware of) he been persistent but consistent and fair, and at every opportunity has offered a right of response and redress (to which the Parker community has exercised its right to remain silent). It is a simple enough matter for the other parties to address your points and provide supporting evidence to prove that the information you are reporting is fake or tampered with, and it would destroy their credibility if it took a court of law to make such a simple point.<br />Keep up the good work, Jim. You have the power of the majority on your side.Alastairhttp://www.alastairbathgate.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-2008351496363801602011-12-01T21:39:54.998+00:002011-12-01T21:39:54.998+00:00Vincent. I much prefer the Chilean MW's damnat...Vincent. I much prefer the Chilean MW's damnation to his praise.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-60881733811205974842011-12-01T21:36:59.739+00:002011-12-01T21:36:59.739+00:00If you want to see how deep the rabbit hole goes, ...If you want to see how deep the rabbit hole goes, try and find info on Jay Miller and his once post as WA's Australian wine reviewer. Bought and paid for?...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-89415400750989558592011-12-01T18:50:49.388+00:002011-12-01T18:50:49.388+00:00This stinks to high heaven. The picture of this P...This stinks to high heaven. The picture of this Pancho guy says a lot. So do the ones of Dr. Miller.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-66482530681208745002011-12-01T18:01:29.715+00:002011-12-01T18:01:29.715+00:00… which means "second-rate" in English, ...… which means "second-rate" in English, sorry!Vincent Poussonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13080212282701988499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-23039939539365619732011-12-01T17:59:45.470+00:002011-12-01T17:59:45.470+00:00"Blogueros de medio pelo" said the chile..."Blogueros de medio pelo" said the chilean MW in Valencia:<br />http://javiprats.blogspot.com/2011/12/cata-de-vinos-en-valencia-con-jay.htmlVincent Poussonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13080212282701988499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-64365934045330953192011-12-01T17:52:20.314+00:002011-12-01T17:52:20.314+00:00In some European countries, Parker used the be a f...In some European countries, Parker used the be a famous brand for fountain pens. We call those items a “stylo”, in French. If you ask me, Bobby’s approach to this case is indeed ... still low. If Campo decides to sue, it will be a Greek tragedy indeed, ‘cause who wants to sue ... Helen(s) ?Luc Charliernoreply@blogger.com