tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post4512550140635790484..comments2023-12-18T15:03:52.326+00:00Comments on Jim's Loire: Campogate: Robert Parker's 'car crash'CRMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12356808627188214016noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-70097655680805754982012-04-22T09:53:26.594+01:002012-04-22T09:53:26.594+01:00Decidedly disappointed that there is as yet no sig...Decidedly disappointed that there is as yet no sign of the famous letter with 149 signatories mentioned for the first time a week ago.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-89318171297691017152012-04-20T08:44:32.279+01:002012-04-20T08:44:32.279+01:00The Hosemaster of Wine has spoken:
http://hosemas...The Hosemaster of Wine has spoken:<br /><br />http://hosemasterofwine.blogspot.com/2012/04/parkergate-results-of-investigation-are.htmlJoeynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-13379447655925330522012-04-20T07:28:12.387+01:002012-04-20T07:28:12.387+01:00ian. Sadly c) has already arrived, so the odds now...ian. Sadly c) has already arrived, so the odds now must be long on the first two options. I wonder what odds Mystic meg is offering?Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-1356383391302682572012-04-19T20:34:14.265+01:002012-04-19T20:34:14.265+01:00Now taking bets... which will arrive first?
a) Th...Now taking bets... which will arrive first?<br /><br />a) The letter from these 149 wineries<br /><br />b) An apology letter from Robert Parker for alleging Jim wasn't prepared to speak to Bob's lawyers.<br /><br />c) An unseasonal frost in hellIan Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-14581045540706769622012-04-17T01:34:53.724+01:002012-04-17T01:34:53.724+01:00WineLush. I fear you may be right. In which case I...WineLush. I fear you may be right. In which case I suspect that a number of us will be considerably disappointed. It may, however, appear in Harpers.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-57930915277661883182012-04-17T01:03:34.190+01:002012-04-17T01:03:34.190+01:00Somehow I think Anon's protest letter with 148...Somehow I think Anon's protest letter with 148 other wine affiliated companies & organizations will be as forthcoming as legal action against Mr. Budd as stated by Mr. Campo.WineLushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04166852293359878930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-71234459492632583362012-04-15T16:34:05.127+01:002012-04-15T16:34:05.127+01:00Gerry. Would be delighted to send it but unfortuna...Gerry. Would be delighted to send it but unfortunately I don't have it as anon never sent it. Still awaiting letter and list. JimJim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-24386744988681782482012-04-15T16:29:23.503+01:002012-04-15T16:29:23.503+01:00Jim, Could you please send me the list of 149 &quo...Jim, Could you please send me the list of 149 "prestigious wineries and wine organizations?" I would like to offer my opinions on the prestigiosity of said wineries, orgs, etc. And I would like to know in whose eye these exalted signatories are "prestigious." Pancho Campo's eyes? Jay Miller's, for example? It would seem by signing such a letter they are voluntarily alignin themselves with individuals who have fallen from grace with the wine Gods. I certainly hope that these 149 signatures, count 'em 149, did not sign as "Anonymous." That would be highly suspect, would it not?Gerry Dawes's Spainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06650398499991198249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-864297483851124272012-04-15T12:05:23.818+01:002012-04-15T12:05:23.818+01:00Ian. I agree it does seem odd. However, I note tha...Ian. I agree it does seem odd. However, I note that the two messages were sent around midnight and that they might have been influenced by a slightly over-zealous sipping of Malaga. <br /><br />As you say I look forward to receiving a copy of this letter and the lengthy list of signatories.<br /><br />Interesting the use of 'cease and desist' suggesting American origins or American influence.<br /><br />I suppose it is possible that Charade Management (aka Chrand Management) might be able shed some light on this matter as they may have heard word of the letter.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-28900599357436100952012-04-15T11:33:53.407+01:002012-04-15T11:33:53.407+01:00Yes anon, we'd love to see this letter.
What ...Yes anon, we'd love to see this letter.<br /><br />What I find odd, is that whilst you're willing to put your name to this letter, you're unwilling to put your name to your post(s) here. This seems rather odd.<br /><br />regards<br />IanIan Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-5745275488370999592012-04-15T06:48:49.789+01:002012-04-15T06:48:49.789+01:00Anon.
Many thanks for this, although I'm sli...Anon. <br /><br />Many thanks for this, although I'm slightly confused is this 149 wineries and organisations or 297 wineries and organisations including yourself.<br /><br />Are you not also supporting Charade Management (aka Chrand Management)? <br /><br />Will be very happy to post your letter and the list of wineries here on Jim's Loire if you think that this might be useful.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-16184025482929693632012-04-15T01:00:21.062+01:002012-04-15T01:00:21.062+01:00Mr. Budd, I have just signed a letter, together wi...Mr. Budd, I have just signed a letter, together with another 148 prestigious wineries and wine organizations: <br />1. Condemning your attacks on Mr. Campo and his family; <br />2. Expressing our solidarity and support to him and The Wine Academy; <br />3. Offering to testify in their favor should be needed. <br />We unanimously believe that it is time for you<br />to cease and desist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-61675715405904864452012-04-15T00:58:01.284+01:002012-04-15T00:58:01.284+01:00Mr. Budd, I have just signed a letter, together wi...Mr. Budd, I have just signed a letter, together with another 148 prestigious wineries and wine organizations: <br />1. Condemning your attacks on Mr. Campo and his family; <br />2. Expressing our solidarity and support to him and The Wine Academy; <br />3. Offering to testify in their favor should be needed.<br />We unanimously believe that it is time for you<br />to cease and desist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-2567314738112863472012-04-13T16:54:36.878+01:002012-04-13T16:54:36.878+01:00Anon. Many thanks. I wonder if our Spanish friend ...Anon. Many thanks. I wonder if our Spanish friend is the same person who cast doubt on the MW qualification in a series of comments recently.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-38681651483867319522012-04-13T15:49:19.584+01:002012-04-13T15:49:19.584+01:00Keep up the good work, Jim!
It is only with your ...Keep up the good work, Jim!<br /><br />It is only with your persistence and attention to detail that all the murky details have emerged on the activities of the Wine Academy and the founder.<br /><br />It seems you have rattled someone´s cage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-72056712075538034492012-04-13T10:59:15.877+01:002012-04-13T10:59:15.877+01:00Anon.
Many thanks for your most helpful comment ...Anon. <br /><br />Many thanks for your most helpful comment on Charade management SL – sorry Chrand Management I'll get the name of this new company right soon!<br /><br />Perhaps you could help further? Is Pancho Campo MW Charade's sole director pleasse? Oops there I go again! <br /><br />Also do you know why Pancho appears to have stopped using MW please?<br /><br />Many thanks in advance for your further assistance. JimJim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-84364183559188686602012-04-13T10:15:43.437+01:002012-04-13T10:15:43.437+01:00"as well as deluxe lifestyle events under the..."as well as deluxe lifestyle events under the Charade Management umbrella..."<br />Se dice Chrand, y no Charade, infórmese bien y no cometa faltas de ortografía si quiere seguir en su línea señor Budd. Se nota que tiene un amor eterno al señor Pancho, no tiene otra ocupación en su vida? Me gustaría saber como saca tanto tiempo para escribir sobre Pancho y quien le paga para poder seguir viviendo y comiendo, estaría bien que algún dia fuese y se dedicara a algo más serio. Un saludo señor Budd...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-8027144700382244092012-04-13T09:07:01.454+01:002012-04-13T09:07:01.454+01:00Luc. Thanks but few are as gifted in languages as ...Luc. Thanks but few are as gifted in languages as you.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-8734478137005989022012-04-13T08:39:35.626+01:002012-04-13T08:39:35.626+01:00You know I enjoy commenting upon events. “This Blo...You know I enjoy commenting upon events. “This Blogger” ’s comment on O’ Connor and Kroll’s summary report is both comprehensive and clever. Full marks: congratulations. <br /><br />On the other hand, what are the “great” vineyards of the world?<br />France and French-speaking Switzerland : I manage<br />Germany, Austria and Süd-Tyrol: German spoken (Luxemburg too)<br />Spain and Latin-America: we make do, albeit not fluently<br />Portugal: idem<br />Italy: passive (reading and understanding) OK<br />Australia, South-Africa, US, NZ ....: English no problem (+ Afrikaans !)<br />So, we’re down to just Slovenia, Romania, Croatia, Lebanon, The Crimea ... were this LC is not adequate. I suggest they hire ME !<br />Unfortunately, I’ve got other businesses to attend ......Luc Charliernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-9212863309740563692012-04-13T07:20:36.627+01:002012-04-13T07:20:36.627+01:00Anon. Thanks. Clearly if you are visiting vineyard...Anon. Thanks. Clearly if you are visiting vineyards around the world it is impossible, except possibly for a very gifted linguist, to be able to speak all the languages of the countries you visit.<br /><br />However, if you are focusing on a particular region I think it is essential to be able to speak the language. Translation, however good, is not the same and often the translation is poor. Speaking the language gives you an insight into the culture. <br /><br />Miller was made responsible for three Spanish speaking wine countries – Argentina, Chile and Spain – yet couldn't speak Spanish.<br /><br />I suspect that Neal Martin's Spanish will improve dramatically over the next year or so.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-456611623448834500.post-19057837751843573842012-04-13T03:54:03.511+01:002012-04-13T03:54:03.511+01:00Jim:
Great entry. The only part that I disagree i...Jim:<br /><br />Great entry. The only part that I disagree is the need for Miller or any wine reviewer to be fluent in Spanish to organize trips and visit Spanish wineries OR DO's. I have visited Spain many times and based on my experience I would say that in this day and age at least 90% of the wineries in Spain have someone that speaks English and could communicate with Miller if necessary. In the case of a winery not having someone that spoke English, there are DO representatives that could take care of the task if it was required. That is part of the work those folks are paid for by the wineries. There is also the importers who represent the winery in the US that could aid in the translation if necessary. As far as I know Martin does not speak any Spanish and he was able to manage on his own during a recent trip to Catalonia without a baby sitter. The same appkies to Squires and his trips to Portugal. Many wine reviewers that go to Spain, Italy or France do not speak the native language and they are still able to do their job competently. Either Miller was to lazy to do it on his own or Parker felt he had to return the favor of Campo hiring him for the Wine Future event and this was his way of thanking him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com